Has been a joy to shoot, accurate, magazine feed. In October 2000 took a 6×6 bull @ 597 yds, a bear @ 853 using 250 gr. I'm cleaning out a few guns that I never shoot to make room for new ones. 338 Win Mag. I'll mention that the .338 I've got would be used to trade for the .375. Here's a short Black bear hunt with my friend's, Dion and Nev. Dion took a nice black bear after having some great SE Alaska weather. I built a custom light weight packer in 2010.Defiance,Lonewolf,ABS braked.I shoot a 300 otm at 2740.This is a very capable rifle,7-2 oz bare 8 3/4 dressed w March 3-24x52.Taken quite a bit of game at 500+ my son and a friend of his have also.Son took a 200 gross muley with it at 500 this year.I saw a slight heavier model made by same smith and couldnt resist,shot a bull moose,muley and bears with it,same load chamber is within .001.Might IMP that one when shoot out .That on I have a AI 5 rnd clip for.Thats alot of fire power when son and I both pack,when he was young we just shared a rifle. It is based on the blown-out, shortened .375 H&H Magnum. Mag. If you already have a Lapua bolt face action, and have had a RUM I'd go with the Lapua or improved version. or better. Good for North America’s larger game. You must log in or register to reply here. I just was not impressed with the cartridge or its ballistics, since it's basically nothing more than a .338 bullet stuffed into a 7mm RemMag case. This will be my first Latts, Nice selection of rifles in your rack -- good job! I have a .338 Edge and .338 RUM, I agree with both DC and ManumManiac on this. I have shot through the shoulder ribs, chest and rib on other side and into Ontario bush with a 225 Nosler Part. I know now that better brass is out there but maybe tough to find. I hunt with a 338 Edge but that will change for the 2016 season, by Sept I will be out in the Alaskan wilderness with a 338 of my own design....... here is a comparison pic I made a few weeks ago to compare the other 338's to my wildcat 338 Long Range Hunter (338 LRH)............... a long throated design made to run in Accurate mags with Zero impact on case capacity, I can use 338 Norma Mag, 300 Norma Mag, 423 Dakota brass and cut down and formed 338 Lapua brass.......... no shortage of brass there..... unlike the RUM brass of late. you had a crappy pipe Muddy... also the 7rem is a 338 necked down with a 7mm pill stuffed in not the other way around.... the 338win is older (1958)... or is the 7rem a necked up 264 Winchester(1959)... lightbulbSince when does a guy need to justify such a thing? The 338 was designed to duplicate the old 333 OKH wildcat developed by Elmer Keith a popular gun writer of that time. The 300 RUM was designed and built as a long range rifle to top the 300 Weatherby and was the top factory load till the 30-378 Weatherby hit the market. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Just one of those things I guess. Win. Sierra game king. is: 5.5% more efficient than the … Just my 2 cents. Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. The 210 grain Federal load duplicates what many have achieved using hand loads in the .338 Win mag. Mag. That weight makes a big difference in ME with the 300 win mag doing 3500 ft-lbs at the muzzle compared to the 338 lapua’s mighty 4832 ft-lbs. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, o not 338 RUM vs 300 Win Mag..... back to reality... the 338 Win mag is a SLUG compared to the 300 RUM, no matter how you slice it, there is absolutely no comparison in the long range shooting dept..... even fantasizing won't change that, I also believe longer Still the most popular .338 magnum in the world, the .338 Win. JavaScript is disabled. Just my 2 cents. 338 Win Mag – the Ultimate Elk Round Many centerfire rifle cartridges are effective on elk. The.338 LM rounds are a larger caliber than the.300 Win Mag and have a slightly longer case and overall length. I also owned a 338 EDGE and wasn't impressed with any brass that was available at the time(nosler and Rem). 338 Win Mag vs 300 Win Mag vs 338 Lapua Ballistics Not surprisingly, there are some significant differences in the ballistics of the three cartridges. The ballistics chart below compares the trajectory of Hornady Precision Hunter and Winchester Expedition Big Game and factory loads for … I like the 7mm because of the long range, while i like the 338 win mag for The .300 loaded with 200s at 3150fps is a much better long range cartridge compared to a .338 Win Mag loaded with a 200 at 3000fps. Remington produced the 300 Win Mag in 1999 and this is also the first cartridge of the 30-caliber The barrel I have is a Proof Research that will finish at 28". .338 Win Mag Rifles (26 Products) Filter By Sort By: Items 1 to 24 of 26 total Show per page Page: 1 2 Savage 57033 110 Engage Hunter XP w/ Bushnell Engage 3-9x40mm Scope MSRP: $629.00 | … More inexpensive ammo, more standard rifles, no muzzlebrake required, and still enough energy to kill anything you need to. I am planning a Colorado Elk and Mule Deer hunt in November. The 338 Edge is built on the 300 Rem Ultra Mag case and present no concerns for you Timberline Magnum action. There All of these can be pushed well over 2800 as well as my rum but , we found, that to make them ultra accurate you had to back all of them to between 2700-2750. In 1958 Winchester came up with cartridges to hunt about any animal with in a 30-06 length action Mag Cartridge. Under 200 yards and/or hunting heavy game I'm reaching for the .338wm and Nosler partitions, moose/brown bear/big plains game etc. It's different for me - I really needed my 308 Norma Mag because my 30-06 didn't kill mule deer and elk dead enough, and my 338 Win Mag killed them too dead. The barrel I have is a Proof Research that will finish at 28". Once past 200 the long slender bullets take over and it's easy reaching for any of the big .30's. Now if you load a .338 up with 300gr VLDs with a .818 BC going 2450fps it is a near equivalent of a 215gr Berger out of the .300 RUM at 3050fps when it comes to downrange energy. My 338 has sentimental value so it's staying regardless. JavaScript is disabled. Good brass is important and lapua is hard to beat. Mag. Don't want to rob your thread. The article addresses the issue of using the larger diameter 338 Lapua chambering in 1 1/16 thread tenon Fitted with 30″ PacNor 3 groove barrel. I had a .338WM for a bit...Due to inaccuracy I rebarreled it to 7mm RemMag. Only reason to really change would be more speed and would maybe do 338limp just cause 300 grains at 3000 plus would be fun. Dividing the numbers just listed for each other cartridge into that for the .338 Win. It scored just behind the .340 Weatherby and has the least recoil among the cartridges tested. shoots flat, hits hard, and fits in standard length actions. It may not display this or other websites correctly. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 338 RCM might come in a shorter package but you'll find 338 Win Mag ammo and components everywhere. Like everything else on this site..distance matters ! Gun Parts - Stocks, Barrels, Actions, etc. The supposed velocity was given as 2900 fps, not as high as we would have expected. I have a 338 RUM and if I was going to build over again I would go with 338 Lapua. Mag. From what I see, they are pretty much neck & neck with the same weight bullets, but where the 338 shines is the availability of heavier bullets. When it comes down to hunting, the answer is obvious; unless you’re doing your hunting at 1000 yards, the 338 Win mag is a better choice. Delivering more power than the old 375 HH at 400 yards. The.338 is also able to be fitted with much heavier bullets than the.300 Win Mag rounds. I, for the longest time, wanted to build a 338 edge but now I am torn. The 338 edge would be my second choice mainly because i have zero interest in the 338 RUM and I don't know why. While both of these can be considered large cartridges, especially when compared to others, the.338 LM is at another level. If I had it to do over I would stay with the 338 Lapua. 3000 fps with a 300 gr bullet is appealing! This data comes from Nosler's load data. It has become the standard .338 caliber test round for the Nosler Ballistics Lab. It may not display this or other websites correctly. It is one of the most powerful.338-caliber rounds in … Mag. Mag. That being said, all of the rounds you have mentioned are very close to the others, so why not step it up a notch and go for the 338 Lapua Improved. Guns - .338 Win Mag or 7mm Ultra Mag - Looking for some advice. This would be a lighter weight hunting rig with ti action and abs barrel. Once again like everyone else has mention it would be the brass that would sway me this direction. I use a 300 win mag as of now, i've shot the 338 win mags, the recoil isn't a big deal at all. The.338 Remington Ultra Magnum has a similar case capacity as the.338 Lapua Magnum and somewhat lower than that of the.338-378 Weatherby Magnum. First was the 458 Win. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. First was the 458 Win. A .30cal 200gr Hornady ELD-X has a BC of .626 while the 200gr SST .338 has a .455 BC. My friend has a custom 338-378 and a Lapua 338. they found the 338 WM with 225 was a great Med Range cartridge. I use it in .408 Cheytac and find it pretty good. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .338 Lapua Magnum vs .338 Winchester Magnum ammo rounds. has the highest muzzle velocity in each bullet weight, with the .338 RCM running second and the .338-06 the slowest velocities. I like the rum and Lapua and have found them to be nearly identical. My gun liked to chew them up. .308 Norma , Nov 6, 2019 #16 Pat is shooting a custom 338 Ultra Mag & Sightron SIII Optics. Winchester came out with ammo in 200 and 250 gr. Then the same cartridge case sized to, 338 WM 1958, 264 WM in 1958. lightbulb. Elk Cartridge Showdown: .308 Win vs. .300 Win. The .338 Winchester Magnum is a .338 in (8.6 mm) caliber, belted, rimless, bottlenecked cartridge introduced in 1958 by Winchester Repeating Arms. I don't currently have a practical use for either, but from what I see, the 338 with lighter bullets is a perfectly capable 5-600 yard gun. This bullet is ideally suited to game weighing between 90 and 180kg (198-396lb) and produces high shock out to around 170 Partition and other bullet companies came out with 225 gr. I've got both... Actually two 300 rum rifles and a 338win. Then the same cartridge case sized to, 338 WM 1958, 264 WM in 1958. However, the velocity spreads are not startling; all three cartridges drive the The main reason for me going with the 338 Norma Mag over a 338 Lapua was the usable case capacity while DBM feeding, and the positive reviews that I have read about it. That’s approaching safari rounds. The 338 was designed to duplicate the old 333 OKH wildcat developed by Elmer Keith a popular gun writer of that time. Currently I have a Stiller Tac 338 action (Laupa bolt face) and a Stainless Remington 700 with a PTG bolt with a mag face. Find 338 Rem Ultra Mag Ammo for sale, in-stock and ready to ship at Ammo Freedom. The .300 RUM throws a .308 diameter bullet downrange, while the .338 Win Mag throws a .338 diameter bullet downrange. I built the 338 rum and have been very happy with it. Great post guys. You are using an out of date browser. To him the 338 should only be used with 250 gr. Common reloading books I have found that the .338 Win Mag, with it's heavier and larger projectiles, breaks down heavy game better For that amount we are talking Lapua brass which would be hard to beat. The .338 Win. Mag. The comment about the .458 Win.Mag. I'm kinda in the same boat and deciding on what cal for my new build. vs. 338. The 338 Winchester Magnum is arguably the best. The 338 Laupa or lapua improved would be the route I'd go. Nearly exact same case with 338 norma i built, almost same load, same speed all of it. The .300 will drop a lot less and have less wind drift though. The 338/300 Ultra Mag is the ultimate big game gun. 300 Norma or 338 Norma improved. To him Bulk Ammunition on sale, including 338 Rem Ultra Mag Rifle Rounds. I don't reload for anything 30 caliber besides the occasional 30-06. On the Ultra Mag’s ammo box we read that the cartridge has 25 percent greater capacity than the .338 Win Mag. The difference is that the 300 win mag will do it with a 180 grn bullet, whereas the 338 lapua will do that with a 250 grain bullet. i would go this around solely due to brass and brass availability. Brass is still going after 5 to 6 loadings at 2800 plus. Mag. The 338-378 would push that to 2785 but that is so little for 12 grains more powder. reminds me that my Marlin 1895 in .45-70 with superstoked loads from Garrett or Buffalo Bore is as close as I'll get to that level. I think I just built my favorite hunting rifle. Currently I have a Stiller Tac 338 action (Laupa bolt face) and a Stainless Remington 700 with a PTG bolt with a mag face. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .270 Winchester vs .338 Lapua Magnum ammo rounds. Except maybe the quality of Bertram brass, I haven't tried it. Every gun cabinet needs both so don't argue with yourself. RUM brass of any flavor isn't that great and availability usually sucks. I never thought of a 24 inch barreled sporter as being too long for most of my hunting. Take both of Ammo Freedom Home My Account Log In … loads. We shot and compared three popular options to help you decide on the best elk cartridge for your style of hunting Using the same weight bullets to keep velocities comparable, is there enough difference to justify having both calibers? i only have experience with the .338 Lapua. I built a 338 Norma a few years back (see sig). They’ll both launch a bullet at 2950 fps. Then when Nosler made a 225 gr. You are using an out of date browser. In my opinion, the 338 Lapua doesn't have anything on the 338 rum with the exception of better brass. I have been able to find 338 rum brass and for some reason my 338 likes R-P brass better then Nosler. 338 Federal Load Data 338-06 A-Square Load Data 338 Winchester Magnum Load Data 330 Dakota Load Data 340 Weatherby Magnum Load Data 338 Remington Ultra Magnum Load Data 338 Lapua Magnum Load Data 338-378 You must log in or register to reply here. While i know both those will do well for North American big game. I would sure rather have a .338 win mag than a 300 ultra mag and I really like .375 H&H Edited by Urimaginaryfrnd - January/22/2011 at 15:44 "Always do the right thing, just because it … Well, I have both and they both just sit in the safe. [2] The .338 in (8.6 mm) is the caliber at which medium-bore cartridges are considered to begin. The 338 Lapua is a better round, but the availability and cost of both the rifles and ammo are too high. TECHNICAL INFORMATION: The 338 RUM delivers surprising accuracy for a large magnum cartridge. The 338 Norma catches my attention I just don't think I can sway away from good brass. my local cabelas even carries lapua brand brass for the 338. its not the cheapest, but they have it if your in a pinch or have a bunch of coupons. yields the results that the .338 Win. Using the same weight bullets to keep velocities comparable. My go to rifles are 7mm and below. I think I just built my favorite hunting rifle. 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